Vikings Season 4 A Good Treason???

Vikings season has returned and I have watched the first episode… I will have a better in depth review in a few days, after I have had time for this initial mess to sink in. I just want to say for now that my first reaction to the events is not good. Mr. Hirst has mentioned in some interviews that this is a season for betrayals. Well, he certainly started the season off with a huge dose of it. Unfortunately, the betrayal I felt was from him!  I need to get this off my chest and vent for a few moments. First of all, any of you who visit this site on a regular basis should be well aware that Yes, I am a loyal follower and fan of Rollo. I took Hirst at his word when he assured us that he would deal with Rollo in a more authentic and historically accurate manner. My first thought and impression after watching this first episode is that Hirst completely threw that idea out the window and has chosen instead to once again paint Rollo as the villain, the traitor and now the truly lowest caliber of one who would turn on his own men and their families, putting him in a category even lower than Aethelwulf who at least felt he was doing his God’s work and slaying evil Pagans, not friends.

If you take time to read through much of the historical information that I’ve provided over the past months concerning Rollo and his beginnings of Normandy, you will understand my dismay, frustration and disappointment over how this is starting out. I can not even begin to understand Hirst’s reasoning for this slaughter. The first thing that comes to my mind is that he has taken the easy way out of the corner he painted himself into with his treatment of Rollo. When you can find no other way out, just resort to your past practice of making everyone but Ragnar an evil villain. I can only assume that Hirst intends to now portray Rollo as that ultimate betrayer who will become a devoted loyal ally to the Franks and no one else. I have to say here too that this whole scene/ event felt extremely disjointed and unreal, as much of the episode did. For me, the event and scene felt off, it felt contrived and lacking in anything other than in your face blood and gore for effect. There was not even some limited half baked discussion or reasoning behind it. And, if Rollo is still so inept at the Frankish language, how did he manage to communicate and convey this well planned treachery by a group of now loyal to him Fankish warriors? There is just something so not right about this event that I hope there is some explanation later on in say the next few episodes. This feels like just another attempt to show everyone else in a bad light except Ragnar and company.  Somehow it felt more like we were watching some sort of dream, or perhaps nightmare sequences or scenarios throughout much of the episode.

I was expecting the disagreements between Ragnar and Bjorn so that did not really surprise me. Bjorn attempted do what he felt was right and of course was then criticized by Ragnar. Ragnar may be ill but is still capable of his deceptions… his comments to son Ubba were a behind the back stab at Bjorn and in some ways it reminded me of his non-committed answers to Rollo in previous years. By all rights, Bjorn should be the next King, but we see Ragnar’s play on that when he promises it to Ubba instead… creating an eventual rivalry between the brothers.

As to the introduction of Yidu… My initial thought on this situation? Aslaug purchased Yidu, making Yidu Aslaug’s property and not Ragnar’s. Somehow I do not think that Aslaug is going to appreciate Ragnar taking over her property. Unless of course, this is her intent? She knows how Ragnar is drawn to different and exotic places and people… perhaps it’s Aslaug who sets up the eventual relationship with the intent of using Yidu against Ragnar in some way later down the line. 

Ok, those are just my first thoughts on all of this. When I have calmed down from my personal feelings of betrayal by Mr. Hirst, I will be able to deal with this better… or not!

Ohhh By the way, Thanks so much Mr. Hirst for redeeming Rollo on one hand with his feelings and treatment of Gisela while stabbing him and the rest of his fans in the back with your other hand! 

 

 

39 thoughts on “Vikings Season 4 A Good Treason???

  1. When Rollo had his compatriots massacred, they made sure to include a visible child who tries to flee but is killed anyway. When I saw clips of that child from the trailers, I immediately knew he/she was going to be the red-shirt dying pity object. Same ploy they did when Aethelwulf massacred the Wessex settlement. That must be the show’s standard signal for the audience: “The people who did this are BAD!”

    Hirst’s narrative haste was disgraceful. He used the most brazen and trite plot devices to separate Rollo from all his countrymen, and make the audience hate him in the process. Sinric has been Rollo’s shadow for all this time, translating the terms and teaching about Frankish customs (which he still had to do through the wedding). He’s the only one who can translate between Franks and Norse. At the end of last season, he seemed enthusiastic about Rollo accepting the deal. And now he just get’s up and says “I’m leaving because I’m a wanderer.” Why the hell didn’t he leave with Ragnar earlier? You’d think Sinric would ride the gravy train for a while before he returned to being a vagabond. But I guess he’s such a true wanderer he will even walk away from easy gold. And as we see from the preview for the next episode, the language barrier remains. Rollo apparently has to communicate his tactical suggestions with hand signals and pantomime.

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    • Thank you so much Megalodon for your take on it! Obviously then I am not the only one feeling like this. I seem to be the pariah in some circles for even suggesting that this was messed up, or for suggesting that Rollo’s character is being used in a stereotypical fashion. I got accused of not understanding or knowing accurate history regarding Rollo and then basically called an ignorant fan girl who’s only reason for being on Rollo’s side is because Clive Standen is good looking!
      Needless to say, I have not yet calmed down and now besides being frustrated, I am also feeling more than a bit pissed off!

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      • Was thinking, what if Sinric left town because dear Erick told him Rollo was going to be a headless corpse? Headless corpses don’t need interpreters and the Franks might ask questions! So he had to leave REAL FAST> Except, I think the bishop speaks Rollo’s dialect. I think maybe Rollo was trying to mime that he thought he was being set up. The bishop saw Sinric leave and he broke down and told everyone that he could communicate with him. So Rollo told the priest, who told the army. You know like the game of telephone. Why else would Sinric leave dodge? Rollo is used to being lied to constantly, he would have picked that up immediately. I seem to remember in the legend written by DUDO of ST. quentin. Rollo was friends with a bishop. P.S. anachronism alert: Bjorn’s map looks just like the map in Roger de Hauteville’s book. (King Roger of Sicily) He was the son of Tancred of Hauteville. Roger had the maps engraved on a huge silver disk, but he also had a book with THAT MAP IN IT!!!

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      • I do remember reading somewhere about Rollo’s later involvement and contributions to the Church and about a Bishop with ties or connections to Denmark ! It’s often thought that Rollo learned quickly how much influence and power the Church wielded and used it to his full advantage… he made vast contributions to the church, always managed to keep them well paid to be on his side in event of a dispute. Ummm kind of like a certain English King from Wessex… People seem to think he’s just this big dumb warrior with no brain of his own but in reality, he’s been watching and observing. All the way back to England when he tried to explain to Floki that it’s a good thing to make friends and alliances- even if you have to fake it as he did with Aethelwulf back then!
        How interesting about the map! Wonder if there are photos or anything of it anywhere on line…

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      • I do remember reading somewhere about Rollo’s later involvement and contributions to the Church and about a Bishop with ties or connections to Denmark

        I remember some sources saying that Rollo with a archbishop named Franco. Only there was no suggestion of Franco being in any way Norse or Scandinavian. And “Franco” does not sound like a Norse name. Some of the accounts say that Rollo already had a de facto power of the Normany area before Charles legitimized him in the treaty. Supposedly, Rollo had already been baptized and Franco was one of Rollo’s prior allies and sponsors.

        It’s often thought that Rollo learned quickly how much influence and power the Church wielded and used it to his full advantage

        Precisely. No matter what Rollo thought of Christianity, he would have realized that Christian priests did not only serve an ecclesiastical role in society. Priests served all sorts of secular functions, as scribes, bureaucrats, messengers, negotiators, counselors and (if they were high ranking enough) politicians, among other things. The show’s Rollo would do well to realize that too.

        In one account of Rollo’s battles (which may be fictional), he was on the verge of victory but a bishop charged out with a relic that rallied the civilian population and pushed back the Vikings. Supposedly, this setback motivated Rollo to accept the subsequent offer from Charles the Simple.

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      • Ok, found one of the references I was thinking of… This one is not in reference to a Bishop but rather refers to St. Olaf, a legendary Scandinavian King who would become Norway’s patron saint. Olaf was baptized at Rouen. And, well into the 11th century Normandy was still playing host to Viking war bands.

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      • Is that the story, where Rollo had a dream and he saw bees making a hive, then the Bishop of Rouen comes out to meet him, and he decides to stop. I am trying to get the source book by Dudo of St. Quentin and read it. The legend says Rollo died wearing a monks habit in a monastery. Now odd, Frederick Hohenstaufen HRE did that too, also Red Cloud the Indian Chief did that too. I don’t know if that’s true or what. I am wondering if this Floki is the floki that discovers Iceland and how that fits into the story too.

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      • Yes, I think the whole series might just end, but then pick up with the 5 boys. So next will be the story about IVAR the boneless and the great heathen army. So presumably the old characters will only be seen on the fringes or will be dead.

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    • you know this afternoon, I watched that scene again. I could be wrong, but I think the Bishop understood what Rollo was saying. Rollo looks at his cross, and then he’s fearful, but then Rollo smiles and he smiles back. He’s watching Rollo pace up and down just like anyone about to get married. Then I swear, the bishop understood Rollo and closed the book in the bedroom. The attendant was trying to undress Gisla, and the bishop smiled at Rollo again. Then they showed the slave market in Kattegat which is weird, because why would an Islamic slaver be in Kattegat, They would be selling him slaves. Anyway, I am thinking they might go for the St. Patrick story. St. Patrick was a Roman Nobleman’s son and he was captured and sold as a slave to the Irish. One day, he was out doing his shepherd slave duty, when Patrick just ran off. He followed the coast and somehow got on a ship and went home to England. Some time after that, Patrick returned to Ireland. Patrick said he was haunted by the voices of the Irish in his dreams. They were calling out to him for help, and so he went back to Ireland as a priest.

      HEre’s something a little funny, what if the woman who Rules Katttegat is Lagertha, or Yidu, or maybe Angraboda or Helga… Bjorn’s daughter????? What if it isn’t Aslaug?

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      • I’m pretty sure it doesn’t end up being Aslaug as much as she would like it to be her! Katheryn Winnick says Lagertha comes into her own destiny and power later this season- so that could mean she gets control of Hedeby on her own, or she gets power else where??? I really can’t see Yidu ending up with the power there… but I think maybe Bjorn’s daughter little Siggy eventually ends up in control, say when they’re grown and all her brothers head off to England or other parts…

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      • Yes the book of Roger. Here’s a youtube Video of the book. I have done a lot of research into the Hautevilles. I think Tancred family was already living in Hauteville la Guilchard when Rollo came to Normandy. The book says that he inherited that property from his father. He had an aversion to polygamy, which the Vikings did not have. So he was not IMO a Norseman. Roger de Hauteville wrote a book about how Tancred met Richard of Normandy on a hunting trip. Hauteville was just outside the original boundaries of the Treaty that covered Rollo’s land. It’s a town on a hill with a strategic location. Now the Book doesn’t say, but Tancred is living in Richard’s house as a part of the family. That’s why I think Tancred married Richard the Fearless two sisters. Roger talks about them like they were kin. Then Roger says (he was the source of Malaterra’s information) that Rollo came to normandy with some soldiers. He glosses over the raiding and all that. hmmmm Roger calls them my people. So how was that possible unless, Tancred married Richard’s sister? Tancred had maybe 22 children. Roger was his youngest son. Back a long time ago, female lineage wasn’t that important, so maybe that’s why he didn’t say. The Hautevilles built a system of floating docks to take over the island of Sicily. They also built some magnificent buildings. So I am wondering if FLOKI’s little daughter, Angraboda, is their ancestress. I wonder if the show will make him their ancestor. Hahahhahh the Hautevilles also were the fathers of some popes. I think I saw in the trailer that Floki was fighting in Frankish armor. Hmmmmmmmm Here’s book of Roger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3x6twQZlcA

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      • I think I saw in the trailer that Floki was fighting in Frankish armor.

        Are you sure? The part in the trailer where I saw Floki fighting was 1:34-1:35. It does not look like he’s wearing Frankish armor. He looks like he is wearing the weaver leather vest, similar to Ragnar’s pattern, and also some kind of hat.

        Whatever Floki is wearing, we see him slaying a Frankish soldier with much blood spray, so he looks like he’s on the Viking side for now.

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    • Technically, Bjorn had Floki arrested. Bjorn had Floki arrested because he murdered Ragnar’s friend Athelstan last season (Episode 6 “Born Again).

      No, they did not show little Alfred. They were no scenes in England featured in this episode.

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      • I believe that Ragnar wanted to deal with Floki in his own more private manner of vengeance. Floki knows his secret about that massacre in England and if he makes that public knowledge as his last words to everyone before he dies then Ragnar’s got a big problem! And, realistically, Floki was right when he accused Bjorn and the others of having the same fears and doubts as him about Athelstan. If there’s a public trial and sentencings, half those people could possibly turn against Ragnar. Also, as warped as Ragnar’s thinking is in some things, I think it’s a thought in head of He’s mine, I can do what I want- I can torture him and make him suffer but the rest of you can’t. I think that’s why he drew the circle around Floki, protecting him in a way from the others abusing him and causing him to get angry enough to spit out his secret to everyone around him.

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      • yes Judy remember when Kalf said HALF the men agree to something then Kalf would have to do it. God I am really starting to LOVE LOVE KALF!!! Go Kalf!!! He’s so awesome. That’s why Rollo had to go down the camp when they said 50 percent only agreed. I think they lied, I think everyone thought Rollo betrayed them. Thing is I dont’ think he was going to betray Ragnar, but NOW HE IS! Holy crap is he pissed. Did you see his face? Damn not good. I think after he beats them, he’s going to offer them the deal he was going to at first. Maybe Floki escapes and goes to Rollo. I think I saw him fighting in Frankish armor!!! Now someone had to have helped Ragnar hide the body of the Old man he murdered. I think it was FLOKI!!!!! OMG he’s totally to talk, if it was him. Anyway we will see. REmember Aslaug was also in the house so she knows. She was sleeping in the other room when Ragnar killed the Old man.

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  2. also, Bjorn is the one who took the braclet from Floki and spread the news he was a christian again. That was a death sentence for him right there.
    No one showed any emotion about Athelstans death(Or even talked about it) but Ragnar.

    as far as Floki, I dont care for the charater, I hope hes at least banned and sent away(to discover Iceland). but Ragnar does not have the guts to kill him.

    Cant wait to get to the Wessex stuff!

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      • Hisrt said Athelstan is still affecting Ragnar/Ecbert, so that should be intresting. Alfred as well, I assume. NIce to see, since I assume Yidu was filling the void totally with Ragnar.

        “Well, he may be dead, but he refuses to go away. He is a presence throughout the whole season in one way or another, let me put it like that. He is still affecting the lives particularly of Ragnar and Ecbert, and consequently, the lives of everyone involved with them. So he lives on as a powerful presence in all their lives, and what’s amazing about that to me is …. And when I think of that, how he started, and now how fundamental he is, even in death, it’s astonishing. So I love him as a character. And yeah, the audience can expect to see more of him.”

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  3. Okay, I could be wrong and frequently am. I am a born skeptic. WHY would Erik come to Rollo like that by himself? Why didn’t a bunch of them come to the palace and talk there. People usually kill where they feel comfortable. Then Erik and company had the whole thing set up like a stockade. hmmmmm I wouldn’t have walked into that. Why had they set it up in a defensive way, if they just wanted to talk? Then there’s something Erik said, I just wanted to “warn” you. Hmmm Warn Rollo about what exactly if they were just going to talk and all? And why were the sharpening a sword? Ragnar just left, so who would they be fighting??????? Were they planning on beheading Rollo and just why was he lured there? Good job Rollo you did not take the BAIT! He didn’t start arguing why Rollo is better to follow than Ragnar and run down there to convince them. Rollo’s days as the black sheep are over.. Very nice indeed. Just before that was the scene where Kalf does the exact same thing, minus the castration of course. I took the killing the child thing differently. You know Ragnar, well he let Erlender go. That is going to bite him in the ass, mark my words it will. When Rollo asked Erik how he felt he was looking all shifty eyed. Why would he tell his child, I knew he would come? That’s odd, if they were just going to talk, why wouldn’t he come? Was he hoping to get the a reward from Ragnar(if he was alive that is), once Rollo was gone just as Enir was hoping to become the Earl? If they all felt that way, they could have left or told Rollo before the wedding? What’s he supposed to do betray his wife? Remember when Kalf said, this is Lagertha, she is not my wife, but my co ruler. How stupid would it be for the Frankish prince consort to betray his new wife? That’s his family now, and for all anyone knows, she could be pregnant, and Rollo is defending his child. There’s no way that small force could fight the Franks. I think they believed Rollo was stupid, he was going to get killed and beheaded. They were going to put out to sea immediately, and take his head to show Ragnar!

    Ragnar gets an F in this episode. What does he expect for Bjorn to be a mind reader? He never told Bjorn that Rollo was not to be trusted, so just how was he to know. Note Ubbe says father, Bjorn calls him Ragnar. It’s pretty shitty to replace someone and not tell them. There’s a new black sheep in town, and his name is Bjorn.

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    • You know what Starfish, I think you nailed this whole scenario with Rollo! There was something off about the whole thing beginning with Sinric.
      From everything I’ve read about Rollo in history, he was just as blood thirsty and power hungry as any other leader or Viking warrior of that time and in order to accomplish what he did, he could not have been just some ignorant thug who only knew how to fight. He had to have been fairly intelligent and have some good grasp of strategy in order to hold on to his land.
      So, Rollo’s problem was that Erik was evasive about how many men or who was against him… When he arrived and surveyed the scene, it certainly looked like the group was prepared for battle. He did not have the option of going in and asking how many were for and against him like Kalf did so it seems he did the next best alternative option. If you do not know which ones are your enemies, your safest bet is to shoot first, ask questions later if there are any survivors. And, if there are survivors, it’s a pretty sure bet that they are now going to take you very seriously. His tactic was one that his descendants such as William the Conqueror would use with much success.
      I did not see any other woman or child get killed except Erik’s wife and child… Another very effective battle tactic- ensure that your opponents know that it is not just them who will pay the consequences of betrayal but their families as well. Unfortunately, in order to gain control and have your subjects or followers take you seriously, you sometimes have to take very drastic measures to get their attention.

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  4. BTW the Black sheep of the family is usually the truth teller and born skeptic. They have been gas lighted and lied to so much, they rarely believe anything. AT first Rollo is happy to see Erik, then his face changes a little. He knows he is alone and kicked to the curb by his family. Rollo’s frightened and alone, but he’s used to being alone. That black sheep cast into the wilderness. I think dear Erik told said child, We are outta here. Rollo’s coming and then we’ll kill him and leave and go home. I heard the sub titles and they made it sound like they were setting up camp for a while, and loudly proclaiming that as Rollo rides up. Why would they do that? If they were expecting a visit, why would they being doing that, except to catch him unaware about what they were going to do.

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    • I need to go back and watch again, pay closer attention to the details but I think you’re close to right. I wondered about that camp set up myself- those guys were expecting him and they were prepared to fight not discuss anything.
      The only thing I wonder about is whether this was all of the men or just one group of them? It didn’t look like all that big of a camp. And, I believe Megalodon has already brought up the thoughts on the idea that Rollo by himself is not a whole lot of help… Also according to history, he did have a group of Northmen who remained loyal to him and were the initial power base of what would become Normandy. Unless he convinces this group of Frankish warriors to suddenly side with him, he doesn’t stand much chance of creating Normandy- home of Northmen… Without this group of Northmen, the landholding is just another minor one in the vast empire of Francia and that pretty much defeats the idea of it being named Normandy!

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  5. Forgot to mention: Wedding night. Now Mr. Standen, he’s a good actor, he says, Rollo has to be on his A game all the time. There’s another hidden knife in this scene. He’s a black sheep and he’s good at spotting lies. She’s not going to use the knife. Perhaps, he’s asked about her: she’s good. Everyone says so, she’s a good person. She made a vow. He laughed when she spit on Roland. She’s a little drama queen and he knows it. The look on her face is laugh out loud funny when she’s checking him out when he has his back to her. She’s a good actress, she sounds a little disappointed when he falls asleep. Well played. Everyone is paying attention on how hard this is for her, but it’s hard for him too. He’s scared, he doesn’t know anyone and cannot communicate. Everyone thinks men should be ready all the time, but it’s not true. He’s going to wait for when he’s more relaxed and rested, and this will work better.

    Now Erik said he was his friend, but he’s not his friend. It’s a lie. Now his wife says she hates him, but she doesn’t. Looking forward to next episode.

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      • I had to watch it twice because it was so funny. She’s sort of caressing him with the knife and I am like OMG you liar. Sorry I posted so much. I’ll quit, but you have to watch Roger de Hauteville. This in on the island of Malta. Roger was 65 years old here. Roger was a bad ass. His sons by Elvira died, so he married the much younger Adelaid and fathered two more children when he was in his 60’s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WowwE0xd4zE Pope Pius VII was his descendant. His real name was Luigi (louis) Barnaba Georgio Claramonti. Napoleone kidnapped him. He was a Benedictine monk so was Malaterra and so was Dudo of St. quentin. http://www.britannica.com/biography/Pius-VII Thomas Jefferson gave him a medal for fighting the Barbary Pirates.

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      • I am working my way through a second watching right now! The reason that Normandy succeeded as long as they did is that they were all bad ass warriors and fighters! They had viking ancestors and used that heritage to their advantage. When they had success and became warriors to be feared then everyone got pissed at them for succeeding!

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  6. Judy, I think Floki might be in Frankish armor in the trailer. Soooo maybe after Rollo defeats Ragnar, he offers them the land just as he was going to in the beginning. So they are the Normans. I did some more looking into this, and Richard the Fearless IMO made marriage alliances with people just outside the boundaries of the Treaty given to Rollo. So St. Valery at St. valery sur somme and also Tancred de Hauteville at Hauteville la Guilchard. I actually drew a map of the families associated with Richard and that’s when I discovered this. These same families settled with Duke William in England. A lot of these men share the same DNA signature as Rollo so they are either sons, brothers or cousins.

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    • Starfish, other people have commented on thinking it’s Floki in frankish armor as well? I haven’t looked closely enough at the trailer to have a thought on it.
      As far as early families, some of them were there in the beginning and yes they continued to be loyal allies through William’s time. The men who took part in rescuing Richard from the French King were listed as allies and friends of Rollo. I believe the small group of warriors stuck together and most likely their children married into each other’s families which would account for those descendants sharing a dna connection later on.

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  7. Ok, I recently had a very interesting discussion with someone connected to the show. Of course he could not give out any specifics- and I do not expect him to! But, he did provide some general information and insight on Hirst’s reasoning and rationale for this recent event with Rollo. Hirst has mentioned often that he is presenting Rollo’s story in a more historically accurate context so naturally for many of us this recent event was a little confusing. It is confusing unless you keep in mind and remember that Hirst is framing the story from a Viking perspective, and he has used various Norse Sagas and the Irish Annals as part of his reference. In most of those sagas it does refer to Rollo as a black sheep, one who was banished or exiled, or one who was not a legitimate ruler. This last reference comes from part of the Irish Annals on invasions and refers to some event where he tried to claim a crown or rule that he was not entitled to. Some of those sagas make mention that he was considered a traitor or betrayer to his people at some point in time. This is the frame of reference that Hirst is working from.
    The sagas references to him as a betrayer of his people could also be looked at in the context that to them, his conversion to Christianity at that time would have been seen as a betrayal of his people and their beliefs. This is also the line of thinking that Floki is trying so hard to stand by with his justification for killing Athelstan. It also brings us to the issue of Ragnar’s relationship with Athelstan, his fake baptism and conversion to Christianity that his people witnessed and were aware of. Eirik brings up the fact that Rollo is now a “Christian” and that bothers the men… yet, it was okay with them for Ragnar to be a fake “Christian”.
    In a last added thought, I am pretty sure this will probably be the last year for Rollo as part of the Vikings because Clive Standen has just been offered a leading role in another series! He has signed on to a role in a new series, Taken being produced for NBC!

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    • Yes, we saw the news about Standen being cast in the “Taken” television series. They have not started production yet, so we don’t know what show will conflict with another. Travis Fimmel somehow found time to shoot “Warcraft” while still remaining in Vikings. And when would they start filming the fifth season? If there is even going to be one? Before, they would start shooting the next season at about this time of year. But right now, they are still filming the second half of Season 4. If the show continues, there might have to be a hiatus. Hirst’s other shows (The Tudors, The Borgias, Camelot) never lasted beyond four seasons.

      But I agree that this will probably be Rollo’s last season. One wonders if they will kill him off, or just not feature him anymore and make periodic references to him and Normandy. Whatever the case, I hope that the show also turns the page on all the other Vikings of his generation, Ragnar, Lagertha, Floki, etc., and they just move on to the next generation.

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      • I agree with you on turning the page and moving on to the next generations. I think whether he dies or not this season kind of depends on how far hirst moves the age progression along? If we see all of these young children as mature adults by the end of this season, we could very well see a lot of the first generation dying. I really don’t see any valid reason to kill Rollo off in some violent way…a lot of his earleir life was guessed about but his later years were fairly well documented and basically he died of old age!

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